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#1 habigman

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Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:33 PM

These Borsalinos were made specifically for the German market.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 09:04 PM

Pre WWII Borsalino made for the German market. It is a size 6 Punti but the sweatband is marked 6 1/2. This hat is really fantastic! Posted Image

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My (Frau Gerda Max Müller) father´s (Herr Karl Max) Borsalino
History

Kurzfassung:
Gekauft vermutlich zwischen 1921 und 1929 in Karlsruhe,
getragen bis 1948,
im Schrank gelagert bis 2010,
wieder entdeckt im Februar 2010,
bei ebay versteigert Ende März 2010
an den neuen Besitzer in USA.


Über den Hut selbst kann ich nicht viel erzählen, denn ich habe die Zeit, als er gekauft wurde und auch die Jahre später nicht selbt erlebt. Meine Mutter lebt nicht mehr und kann mir keine Auskunft geben.

Deshalb muß ich zuerst von meinem Vater erzählen.

Er war von Beruf Elektromeister und Rundfunktechniker. Zur Ausbildung lebte von 1921 bis 1929 in Karlsruhe. Er war ein Fan von Richard Tauber, der in dieser Zeit hin und wieder an der Karlsruher Oper gesungen hat und sehr populär war.Wir hatten einige Schallplattenaufnahmen von ihm, die durch die Kriegswirren verlorengegangen sind. In Wikipedia ist der Tenor mit einem Hut abgebildet, den ich für einen Borsalino halte. http://en.wikipedia..../Richard_Tauber. Ich denke, mein Vater kaufte sich in dieser Zeit den Borsalino in Karlsruhe. In den 20er Jahren nach dem ersten Weltkrieg waren die jungen Menschen in Deutschland sehr modebewußt.

Nach seiner Ausbildung eröffnete mein Vater in einem kleinen Ort in der Nähe von Heidelberg ein Rundfunkgeschäft und übernahm die Betriebsleitung eines privaten Kraf twerkes. Er war oft auf Geschäftsreise in seinem eigenen Auto. Er war immer korrekt und sorgfältig gekleidet und trug dazu den Borsalino.
Ab 1939 konnte man in Deutschland keine schicken Kleider mehr kaufen. Deshalb ging mein Vater sorgfältig mit dem Borsalino um und pflegte ihn.
Durch einen Berufsunfall hatte mein Vater ein steifes Bein und musste nicht Soldat werden. Er durfte wegen des Kraftwerkes und der Energieversorgung des Ortes sein Auto behalten und den Krieg über fahren.

Jetzt erst setzt meine Erinnerung ein, denn ich war in dieser Zeit noch ein Kind. Wenn mein Vater geschäftlich unterwegs war, trug er den Borsalino.

Nach Kriegsende wurden wir amerikanische Besatzungszone. Mein Vater organisierte zusammen mit dem Ortskommandanten der amerikanischen Besatzungssoldaten den Wiederaufbau des Stromnetzes. Die Energieversorgung mußte schnell wieder hergestellt werden. In den letzten Kriegstagen wurde das Elektrizitätsnetz noch zerstört. Dafür wurde mein Vater jeden Morgen mit einem Militärfahrzeug abgeholt (kein Jeep wegen des steifen Beines). Und er trug den Borsalino. Die Soldaten und auch der Kommandant waren gut zu uns Kindern und unserer Familie. Das Kraftwerk war "Off Limits". Der Kommandant, Hinkel aus NewYork, freundete sich mit meinem Vater an. Er schickte uns nach seiner Rückkehr in die USA regelmäßig Päckchen.

Im Februar 1948 erkrankte mein Vater an einer schweren Lungenentzündung. Antibiotika konnte man nur auf dem schwarzen Markt bekommen. Er verstarb innerhalb einer Woche an seinem 44. Geburtstag. Die Familie war wie betäubt. Seine Kleider schenkten wir den Flüchtlingen aus dem Osten. Den Borsalino aber verwahrten wir sorgfältig in einem Schrank. Kürzlich machte ich den Schrank leer und entdeckte den Borsalino. Ich hatte ihn vergessen. Er war noch makellos und unversehrt. Ich bot ihn bei ebay zum Verkauf an und er landete in den USA. Mein Vater würde sich darüber freuen.

Google transaltion.

My (Mrs. Gerda Max Müller) father's (Mr. Karl Max) Borsalino
History

Abstract:
Probably bought in 1921-1929 Karlsruhe,
worn until 1948,
stored in the closet until 2010,
rediscovered in February 2010,
auctioned on ebay in late March 2010
to the new owner in USA.


About the hat itself, I can not tell you much, because I have the time, when he was bought and not experienced the selbt years later. My mother is not alive and can give me any information.

Therefore, I must first tell you of my father.

He was a professional electrician and radio technician. To form lived from 1921 to 1929 in Karlsruhe. He was a fan of Richard Tauber, who at this time every now and again sang at the Karlsruhe Opera, and very popular war.Wir had some recordings of him that have been lost through the ravages of war. Wikipedia in the tenor is shown with a hat, which I think is a Borsalino. http://en.wikipedia..../Richard_Tauber. I think my father bought in this time the Borsalino in Karlsruhe. In the 20 years after World War II, the young people in Germany were very fashion conscious.

After his training, my father opened in a small town near Heidelberg, a broadcasting business and took over the management of a private Kraf twerk. He was often on business in his own car. He was always dressed properly and carefully and contributed to the Borsalino.
From 1939 you could buy in Germany do not send any more clothes. That's why my father was careful with the Borsalino and nursed him.
By an occupational accident my father had a stiff leg and did not have to be a soldier. He was allowed to keep because of the power plant and the energy of the place his car and go to war over.

Now only uses my memory because I was at this time still a child. When my father was away on business, he wore the Borsalino.

After the war we were American occupation zone. My father organized together with the local commander of the American soldiers rebuilding the power grid. The power supply had to be quickly restored. In the last days of the war the electric grid was not destroyed. For my father every morning was met with a military vehicle (not a jeep because of the stiff leg). And he wore the Borsalino. The soldiers and the commander were good to us kids and our family. The power plant was "off limits". The commander, Hinkel from New York became friends, in with my father. He sent us after his return regularly to the U.S. package.

In February 1948 my father became ill with severe pneumonia. Antibiotics could only get on the black market. He died within a week of his 44th Birthday. The family was stunned. His clothes we donated to refugees from the East. The Borsalino but we held carefully in a cupboard. Recently I took the empty cupboard and the Borsalino discovered. I had forgotten him. He was still pristine and intact. I offered it for sale on ebay and he landed in the U.S.. My father would be pleased.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:35 PM

Black Borsalino (size 6 1/2 Punti) made for the German market. I am thinking late 50s early 60s.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:36 PM

Borsalino Homburg I picked up from Dreispitz on the FL. Very beautiful felt on is one and typical Borsalino style / quality. Made for HutKoenig Regensburg.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:39 PM

Borsalino made for the German market. This is a new old stock from 1979. The brim is slightly over 2 inches with a 5 1/2 inch open crown. The typical pliable felt is greyish and has some interesting stitching which I find appealing. Also like the liner color.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:23 PM

This gem belongs to RLK on the FL. Probably late 1950s early 60s.

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Green with 4 rows of edge stitching sampler and unusual plastic nose support.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:20 PM

Very late (1982) original family Borsalino (size 61 cm) made for the German market. Looks gray in photos but casts a olive hue. Missing liner but other wise in good condition.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 09:47 PM

Echter Borsalino Homburg, size 6 Punti. I am thinking very early 1950s on this one. The sweatband has some cracking issues and was cut down so might get it replaced and have the trolley cord fixed. Other than that it is in decent shape.

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 02:16 PM

Borsalino Export Qualität, black, size 5 1/2 Punti, missing wind trolley button, probably early - mid 1960s. The brim can be worn up or down. I have a Wegener and Mayser of similar style and weight. In hand this would not feel like most Borsalinos people have encountered.

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 09:35 PM

My latest Echter Borsalino arrived today. It is date stamped 03/19/59. This one is fantastic condition.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 08:25 PM

Black Echter Borsalino Homburg. It is a size 6 Punti and is in very good condition. Probably late 1950s.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 10:52 PM

Not mine but rare - old (1930s?) - small Echter Borsalino.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:48 PM

Echter Borsalino, size 5 1/2, probably pre WWII. It's rare to find a older one like this.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:40 PM

These beauties belong to Manfred (Fritz).

"This old Homburger was expressly made for Fritz Reinhardt Frankfurt.
The paper label inside was destroyed. Some stains on the crossgrain band on the brim."

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"This nice Borsalino was also expressly made for Fritz Reinhardt Frankfurt and has
a retailer Sweatband . No paper label inside. The hat was mostly worn with brim up. I will do it also!"

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:00 PM

Echter Borsalino, light brown, measures around 59cm, probably late 1950s.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

Echter Borsalino, size 5 1/2 Point, probably 1930s. This Echter Borsalino was later (1980s?) setup in a military crease. It was sold by Carl Kellner Hamburg (I have a some other hats from this shop). The felt is very thick and stiff which is not usually associated with Borsalinos. I have no idea if this stiffness is a later result of trying to make into a military style hat. Unfortunately the sweatband (a real beauty) is damaged but over all the hat is in good shape. I think the bow is especially nice and also the tip patch.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

Echter Borsalino, date stamped 9/10/38. This great find belongs to Manfred.

"Sweatband stitching damaged, ribbon and bow damaged! I knew that before I have commanded."

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"After sewing the sweatband, I gave him a new vintage ribbon and a new flanging.
That is the finished hat! Echter Borsalino Color Mirtillo a dark blue / black."

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:12 AM

Echter Borsalino, size 6 1/2 Point, probably mid to late 1950s. This was great flea market find by Manfred!

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:18 PM

Echter Borsalino, date stamped 09/12/57. Belongs to Paddy on the FL.

"So it measures 2 3/4" Brim 4 1/2" Open Crown

Punti 5, UK 7, US 7 1/8"


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:50 PM

Echter Borsalino, very good condition, confirmed 1929. The felt is very soft and light with a unique box bow design for this style hat. It has an fantastic over welt curled brim. There is no tape at the sweatband seam and the non-reed sweatband is very finely stitched to the hat. There is a Point 5 size label at the sweatband seam which I don't believe I have seen before. What is great is it actually fits which is odd because Borsalino hats usually run small. I was afraid to pull back the sweatband but I did take a peak at the paper label and it has the Borsalino name finely printed on the left. The Berlin store / hat company (Max Eckard) that sold it did not survive WWII. The box is from a different Berlin hat store (Wilhelm Gaedke)that also didn't survive WWII. This isn't the hat I bid on but it so fantastic I can't complain. There were (are) a series of hats from an estate sale and the seller was very confusing to say the least.

Update: I checked the paper label behind the sweatband and the size is 5 1/2 Point.

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